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Tai-Pan
04-03-2009, 12:46 PM
and I'm not, this is the only thing that I would currently consider.

The new Sinn 900 Flieger. I would take the strap version over the bracelet.

<img src="http://ablogtoread.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sinn-900-big-pilot-watch.jpg">
<img src="http://ablogtoread.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sinn-900-flieger-watch-on-leather.jpg">

Bald1
04-03-2009, 01:06 PM
As you may know I am a big Sinn fan. That said they are all Lemania 5100 based chronos. Its a shame that the movement was retired by "that big conglomerate" as I loathe the valijoux 7750. And yes I've owned them (lastly a Kobold with a 7750). As this 2100 Euro Fleiger uses a 7750, it is not a piece that would find its way on to my wrist, despite the design/looks.

kv
04-03-2009, 08:18 PM
my brother owns a Sinn and ays it Giant Bang for the dollar.

Bald1
04-03-2009, 08:43 PM
TP / Kirk,

I wouldn't own 3 Sinns if I thought they were anything less than stellar. Maybe they've found a way to tweak how 7750s perform.... who knows?

Mr_Pacman
04-03-2009, 09:33 PM
TP / Kirk,

I wouldn't own 3 Sinns if I thought they were anything less than stellar. Maybe they've found a way to tweak how 7750s perform.... who knows?

My Sinn 903 has some variation of the 7750 (with the 3,6,9 subdial configuration). Keeps time to within 2 seconds/day.....according to time.gov

kv
04-03-2009, 11:20 PM
TP / Kirk,

I wouldn't own 3 Sinns if I thought they were anything less than stellar. Maybe they've found a way to tweak how 7750s perform.... who knows?

gotta be the best chrono. movt. robust & accurate. a winner since intro. I think in early seventies. surprised you don't like it.

Justin
04-03-2009, 11:35 PM
gotta be the best chrono. movt. robust & accurate. a winner since intro. I think in early seventies. surprised you don't like it.
The BEST Chrono movement since lat sixties is the Zenith El Primero. More awards, more sought after etc... A very well made piece. I little "High Strung" but by far the best TRUE chrono ever made!

kv
04-03-2009, 11:37 PM
The BEST Chrono movement since lat sixties is the Zenith El Primero. More awards, more sought after etc... A very well made piece. I little "High Strung" but by far the best TRUE chrono ever made!

Justin you're right. I forgot about the el primero. its the true cadilac of chron. movt.

BlackHills
04-03-2009, 11:44 PM
I've never understood why a company would make a chrono and not put a tachymeter on it. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way but the lack of one always been a big turn off for me re: Sinn chronos, as most of their models have a diver-type bezel.

kv
04-03-2009, 11:56 PM
I've never understood why a company would make a chrono and not put a tachymeter on it. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way but the lack of one always been a big turn off for me re: Sinn chronos, as most of their models have a diver-type bezel.

too logical :) a tachymeter runs in tandem with what a chrono. provides.

Pistolero
04-04-2009, 07:23 AM
TP / Kirk,

I wouldn't own 3 Sinns if I thought they were anything less than stellar. Maybe they've found a way to tweak how 7750s perform.... who knows?

IWC sure did.

Bald1
04-04-2009, 09:47 AM
gotta be the best chrono. movt. robust & accurate. a winner since intro. I think in early seventies. surprised you don't like it.

Very quirky like when you set it. It has a number of other idiosyncrasies that simply annoy me. I wouldn't say it is the "best" by any stretch. I much prefer the 5100 for its robustness (picked by the military for the number of Gs it could take, etc ad nauseum), sub dial layout, and the fact that it shows 24 vice 12 hours.

Sushi
04-04-2009, 11:45 AM
I beg to differ... The 7750 has been out there in more numbers than any El Primero, the 7750 is a true work horse... The El Primero was the first automatic chrono but certainly not the best... The 7750 is simple in its execution and maintenance, heck I'd take an IWC tuned 7750 any day over any El Primero chrono but the one that really gets me hot for it is the first auto chrono movement by JLC, gimme a Jaeger-LeCoultre 751 or 752 chrono movement any time over all others, one of the latest created and certainly better than an El Primero... with a way more reasonable vibration rate per hour... But let's not forget any newer Chrono now a days by Omege with the co-axial escapment, I'd even take that over any Zenith movement... but that's just me.

Of course I am not comparing a Valjoux 7750 found in a Panerai but one found in an Omega, a Breit-Bling and/or an IWC cause they are super tuned movements as opposed to a China 7750 quality like one as found in a fake watch...

Mr_Pacman
04-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Hey Bald1....have you every played around with a Sinn 144 by chance?

What did you think of it? I know it's one of their less expensive models, but it has a 70's retro look to it that I really dig. Seems like you can pick up near mint versions for around $900 U.S that are only a few months old.

One popped up for sale and I'm contemplating snagging it.....just not sure how the quality is.

Does it wear big/small for it's advertised 40mm size?

Bald1
04-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Hey Bald1....have you every played around with a Sinn 144 by chance?


Unfortunately no although I have seen them in person. They utilize a modified Valjoux 7750 movement and as with others in the Sinn line that use that movement, folks seem to like them a lot.

As for size, I'm rather a large watch junkie with quite a few 46mm numbers. But I doubt that the 144 size will be an issue. Heck my Elka here is just 38.5mm, the smallest I own, and it feels good on my wrist.

http://rap.midco.net/bald1/elka._sirtoli_sm.jpg

Jerry
04-04-2009, 08:49 PM
my IWC is spot on with atomic clock , did not lose 1 se i 3 months since I bought it .

Tai-Pan
04-04-2009, 11:16 PM
I've owned a Sinn EZM1, 657, 256, and 156 Military. I wonder if I'm leaving any out...

Tai-Pan
04-04-2009, 11:20 PM
The 5100 is a good movement, but I sold 2 watches powered by it (EZM1 and 156 Mil) because of parts availability. Swatch discontinued it and in the future the mold-injected plastic parts will be very hard to come by. I wonder if watchmakers are trained in the manufacture of plastic parts?