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Sushi
04-15-2009, 10:28 PM
she takes singing lesson and brought this one to my attention and here is a little article to go along with it, set up and all that or just scroll down to the video right away and play, then come back to read the article, well worth it IMHO. Don't judge a book by its cover, don't judge a person on what they say but rather on their actions (or in this case how they performed!!)

Things That Go Pop! (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/blogs/popculture/)
What American Idol can learn from Susan Boyle (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/blogs/popculture/2009/04/what_american_idol_can_learn_f.html)

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Quentin Tarantino was the guest mentor on last night's episode of American Idol. I know, you're thinking , What does a self-styled renegade filmmaker have to do with a hackneyed television singing competition? Well, it's not the first time Tarantino's made an Idol appearance (he joined the judging panel back in Season 3), and he does have an upcoming film to promote. (That would be the WWII actioner Inglourious Basterds (sic), which received a substantial onscreen promo during the show, though the AI team was careful not to mention the flick's semi-controversial title.)

He may be a rabid pop culture junkie who's helped create some iconic film soundtrack moments, but Tarantino's attempts to coach the Idol wannabes through last night's song selections were... unconventional at best. Unlike the pro pop stars who make a game effort to provide musical feedback when they act as guest mentors, Tarantino had very few constructive pointers when it came to the actual music. Rather, he slipped into film director mode, focusing on the emotional content of each contestant's tune -- the theme last night, appropriately, was "Songs of the Cinema" -- as he tried to coax believable moments out of the flailing singers.

I wasn't sold on Tarantino's brusque, self-satisfied manner, especially since he seemed oblivious to musical factors like staying in key and delivering a polished vocal. At times, it felt almost as though he was directing thespians auditioning for the role of a wide-eyed rock star in a rags-to-riches movie of the week. But in his attempts to get these wobbly singers to communicate the actual meaning contained in their songs, Tarantino hit on a key quality that most American Idol competitors lack. Namely, the awareness that the pop nuggets they perform aren't just some vehicle to show off their latent star quality, but rather compositions that tell stories and convey emotions.

Tarantino's advice got me thinking about another televised reality competition performance that's been making waves recently: Susan Boyle's jaw-dropping, heart-tugging appearance on Britain's Got Talent. By now, most of you are probably familiar with the unassuming bird from Scotland who's become a sudden sensation. The video of 47-year-old Boyle singing I Dreamed a Dream, from the musical Les Miserables, went viral over the weekend; by now, the official clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY) on the Britain's So Talented YouTube page has received close to six million views.

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What's marvelous about Boyle is how she managed to completely challenge not just our preconceived expectations (and those of the Britain's Got Talent judges) but also the collective perception of what an undiscovered star looks like. Watch the initial moments of the clip and you can tell that the producers are salivating over Boyle's potential as a wacky character who'll make great television fodder. An unemployed, eccentric dowager from a small Scottish village who lives alone with her cat, Pebbles? A 47-year-old clad in an unflattering taupe housedress who claims not only that she's never been married, but that she's never been kissed? "This?" they're silently guffawing, "This woman thinks she's got a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a professional singer?"

The set-up is cruel: a collection of spliced-together clips of Boyle making doddering, off-colour comments, snarky tween audience members rolling their eyes and the Britain's Got Talent judges addressing the self-proclaimed singer as though she's a recent escapee from a mental institution. We've seen this character in similar competitions before, most recently in the guise of delusional drama queen Tatiana del Toro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNyy4Agn7gU) on this season of American Idol. This character is usually painfully misguided and sorely lacking in skill. He or she is unattractive by conventional standards and often given to grand proclamations about his or her talent. Producers adore these figures because they make for melodrama, because they're limitless sources of cheap jokes and surefire targets for our own mean-spirited mockery. These shows revel in these characters because laughing at the poor saps on television provides a nice boost to our own self-esteem.

But Boyle screwed all of that up. When she opened her mouth to sing, something exquisite and jarring came out, something that, as Entertainment Weekly's Lisa Schwartzbaum describes it, "reordered the measure of beauty." Boyle herself underestimated her incredible ability and left us speechless. "In our pop-minded culture so slavishly obsessed with packaging," says Schwartzbaum, "[with] the right face, the right clothes, the right attitudes, the right Facebook posts -- the unpackaged artistic power of the unstyled, un-hip, un-kissed Ms. Boyle let me feel, for the duration of one blazing showstopping ballad, the meaning of human grace."

I'd go even further. The reason Susan Boyle's performance has become such a worldwide phenomenon is simple: she genuinely felt and understood the meaning of what she was singing and demonstrated a kind of uncompromised honesty that we rarely witness in popular culture. And the facts of her biography -- she's alone and attached to an impossible hope she's had since the age of 12 -- provided an affecting context for her performance of a song about dreams deferred.

The detached, sheltered pipsqueaks on American Idol would do well to follow Susan Boyle's lead. Who knows -- maybe she'll show up as a guest mentor next season.

-- Sarah Liss

kevink
04-15-2009, 10:55 PM
Someone sent me the link about an hour ago, unbelievable!! Nothing like the acts in Disneyworld, "American Idol"

///Mike
04-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Les Mis is our second favorite.

Seen it countless times.

Sushi
04-15-2009, 11:18 PM
Mike, what is your favorite "Musical" ?

///Mike
04-15-2009, 11:28 PM
Phantom.

I would give an large amount of money to see Michael Crawford PERFORM Phantom again. We've seen Michael Crawford perform in concert several times, but to see him PERFORM in Phantom would be spectacular!

When Michael Crawford was doing EFX in Vegas we saw that show twice. He's a great singer, but a phenomenal performer.

JM2C

///Mike
04-15-2009, 11:41 PM
Kris Phillips. Also a strong performer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqvWrWd5Ds

Bald1
04-15-2009, 11:41 PM
How long ago was it that Paul Potts sang opera and absolutely stunned the judges and audience on this same show? 2007

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelJrP3P7tA

My reaction to Susan Boyle was much the same as I had to Potts. Absolutely amazing.

As for the judges saying biggest shock in 3 years, I think they may have thought Potts was 3 years ago instead of 2. No biggie.

Tai-Pan
04-15-2009, 11:51 PM
Whos' that blonde hottie judge? Simon is an asshole in any country.

Bald1
04-16-2009, 12:10 AM
Guess I'm not alone recalling Paul Potts:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6097705.ece
"Boyle's sudden trajectory mirrors that of previous Britain's Got Talent winner Paul Potts. The plain Welsh mobile phone salesman wowed audiences with his classical singing and is due to release his second album this year."


As for the hottie judge, she's Amanda Holden.

Mike S
04-16-2009, 02:43 AM
WOW. Such pure and natural talent. That was simply amazing.

Mike S
04-16-2009, 02:48 AM
How long ago was it that Paul Potts sang opera and absolutely stunned the judges and audience on this same show? 2007

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelJrP3P7tA

My reaction to Susan Boyle was much the same as I had to Potts. Absolutely amazing.

As for the judges saying biggest shock in 3 years, I think they may have thought Potts was 3 years ago instead of 2. No biggie.

Another great singer. I'm going to have to see if that show is carried in my area. Looks like a great show.

TMK
04-16-2009, 07:00 AM
Oh God...let me guess you lkike Barbra Steisand and rainbows too :) :)

Sushi
04-16-2009, 07:10 AM
I'd love to see a duet with Susan Boyle and Paul Potts ;) :)

Sushi
04-16-2009, 07:26 AM
The best my girlfriend can't even pick her favorite, I only saw a few and the last one was so well produced it was reallt enjoyable, "The Sound of Music" the most surprising was "The Lion King" that was a production and a half and so well put together. I'll put "The Phantom..." on my short list. Strangely enough before being with Stephanie I never would have gone and seen a Musical willingly, the worst is easy, a tie between "Wicked" for having rerrible sound and "Cats" for simply being bad from beginning to end...

TMK
04-16-2009, 07:36 AM
He has an amazing voice :)

TMK
04-16-2009, 07:37 AM
Yeah, as long as they don't reproduce :) :)

InsuranceGuy
04-16-2009, 08:03 AM
A bunch of guys discussing showtunes and american idol.

And you guys make fun of the people on TZ?

Sushi
04-16-2009, 08:19 AM
They still talk about showtunes on TZ, I haven't been there in a long time... Hold on a sec let me go and check out the 'scene' over at TZ....

"No offense intended (http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&th=1251271&mid=4342502&rid=54393&rev=&reveal=)... but those just might be the ugliest boots/shoes I have ever seen." Hummm errr, never mind ;)

Max__Power
04-16-2009, 08:22 AM
.Yeah, as long as they don't reproduce :) :)

InsuranceGuy
04-16-2009, 08:22 AM
I am just making fun of you. Go listen to one of your Barbara Streisand albums and iron your skirts.

By the way, I am getting into Toronto on 5/18 in the evening and coming home the evening of 5/21. Are we going to hang?

Sushi
04-16-2009, 08:27 AM
Yup... The 18th is good for me, so is the 19th, 20th and I'll push you out on the 21st!! ;) :)

InsuranceGuy
04-16-2009, 08:36 AM
Just start lining up the honeys for me. I promise not to cause any permanent damage.

Sushi
04-16-2009, 08:39 AM
Whos' that blonde hottie judge? Simon is an asshole in any country.

I agree she's hot

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I'd hit that like a tennis ball... over and over and over again! :D

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Okay that's not her in this image below, it is from the 70's so she wasn't born just yet... Oh wait she was born in 1971! :eek:

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Sushi
04-18-2009, 10:50 PM
from a charity CD from 10 years ago... The way she convey emotions in her voice and really set the tone to the song perfectly is incredible, simply amazing. I'll be buying every CD she releases if they are as good as what we have heard so far !!

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Jay
04-19-2009, 12:30 AM
A bunch of guys discussing showtunes and american idol.

And you guys make fun of the people on TZ?


These doucgebags are either whining about that schmuck JW..or washing thier vaginas and watching Broadway...


(btw I cried when I heard Susan Boyle)